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02/09/2022 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 119 OATH OF OFFICE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Postponed to Feb 11>
+= HB 155 COURT SYSTEM PROVIDE VISITORS & EXPERTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HB 155(JUD) Out of Committee
+= SB 129 ELECTION PAMPHLET INFORMATION RE: JUDGES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 23 INITIATIVE SEVERABILITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
                                                                                                                              
        SB 129-ELECTION PAMPHLET INFORMATION RE: JUDGES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   HOLLAND  reconvened   the  meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration  of  SENATE  BILL  NO.  129  "An  Act  relating  to                                                               
information   on   judicial   officers   provided   in   election                                                               
pamphlets."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[SB 129  was previously heard  on 5/5/21, 1/28/22,  and 2/2/2022.                                                               
[Public  testimony  was  opened   and  closed,  and  a  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for SB 129, Version O, was adopted on 1/28/22].                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:42:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   HOLLAND  stated   that  the   committee  would   take  up                                                               
amendments. He said he intended to hold the bill in committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:42:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  moved  to  adopt  Amendment  1,  work  order  32-                                                               
LS0751\O.2.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                   32-LS0751\O.2                                                                
                                                        Radford                                                                 
                                                         2/1/22                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                   BY SENATOR HOLLAND                                                                 
     TO:  CSSB 129(JUD), Draft Version "O"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 10, following "a":                                                                                        
          Insert "superior court judge or district court"                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 31:                                                                                                           
          Delete "justice"                                                                                                  
          Insert "supreme court justice or court of appeals                                                                 
     judge"                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND asked Ms. DiPietro to explain Amendment 1.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:43:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SUSANNE  DIPIETRO, Executive  Director,  Alaska Judicial  Council                                                               
(AJC),  Alaska Court  System, Anchorage,  Alaska, explained  that                                                               
Amendment  1  would  differentiate between  the  information  AJC                                                               
would provide  for trial and  district court judges. She  said it                                                               
specifically  related to  performance  evaluations for  appellate                                                               
judges, which  includes the  Supreme Court  justices or  Court of                                                               
Appeals judges.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:44:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked whether this  was for clarification or if it                                                               
would change policy.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. DIPIETRO replied that the  proposed committee substitute (CS)                                                               
for  SB  129,  Version  O identified  the  information  AJC  will                                                               
provide for all judges, including  appellate judges. However, AJC                                                               
does  not collect  some information  for  appellate judges  since                                                               
their jobs are slightly different  from trial court judges. Thus,                                                               
the council's  evaluation of the  two different levels  of courts                                                               
is slightly  different. AJC  wanted to  be clear  the information                                                               
provided  on  trial  court judges  was  slightly  different  from                                                               
appellate  court  judges. She  summarized  that  the language  in                                                               
Version O  was not  applicable because it  treats both  levels of                                                               
judges the same.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS,  via Teams, speaking  as sponsor, related  that he                                                               
had discussed Amendment 1 with  Ms. DiPietro. He remarked that he                                                               
had intended to make this change,  so he was comfortable with it.                                                               
He characterized Amendment 1 as clarifying language.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES removed her objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  found no  further objection,  and Amendment  1 was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:47:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  moved  to  adopt  Amendment  2,  work  order  32-                                                               
LS0751\O.6.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                   32-LS0751\O.6                                                                
                                                        Radford                                                                 
                                                         2/4/22                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 2                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      OFFERED IN THE SENATE                  BY SENATOR HOLLAND                                                                 
      TO:  CSSB 129(JUD), Draft Version "O"                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 21 - 22:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
               "(F)  the number of decisions by the judge                                                                   
     that  were  reviewed  and  disposed  of  by  a  written                                                                
     decision  of  an  appellate court,  the  percentage  of                                                                
     issues  in those  decisions that  were affirmed  by the                                                                
     appellate   court,   and   the  significance   of   the                                                                
     affirmation rate  based on the  type of  case appealed,                                                                
     historical  statewide  averages, affirmance  data  from                                                                
     similarly   situated   judges,   and   other   relevant                                                                
     factors;"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:47:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  DIPIETRO  explained  that  Amendment  2  would  clarify  the                                                               
information  presented  on  judicial decisions  issued  by  trial                                                               
court judges. She explained that  the appellate court reviews the                                                               
outcome  of  judicial  decisions  that  are  appealed,  which  is                                                               
referred to  as the affirmance  rate. She explained  the process.                                                               
Judicial decisions made by trial  court judges can be appealed to                                                               
the Court of Appeals or the  Alaska Supreme Court. Once cases are                                                               
appealed  and the  appellate courts  issue  their decisions,  the                                                               
Alaska Judicial  Council analyzes  and catalogs each  decision as                                                               
to whether it was affirmed,  partially affirmed, mostly affirmed,                                                               
or mostly  reversed. For example, if  a trial court judge  had 10                                                               
cases appealed and the appellate  court affirmed 2 but reversed 8                                                               
cases,  it would  result in  a  20 percent  affirmance rate.  The                                                               
calculation and analysis  for each trial court  judge whose cases                                                               
were appealed to the higher court are posted to AJC's website.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DIPIETRO related  her  understanding  that subparagraph  (F)                                                               
describes the type  of information on affirmance  rate that would                                                               
be provided  in the  voter pamphlet.  However, AJC's  analysis is                                                               
complex, typically  10-15 pages in length,  providing context and                                                               
information. Due to  the complexity and length,  this analysis is                                                               
not  currently  inserted  in the  voter  pamphlet.  Instead,  AJC                                                               
provides  a  summary  and  directs  those  seeking  the  in-depth                                                               
analysis to AJC's website.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:49:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked  whether  the  sponsor  would  comment  on                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  said he supported  the first half of  Amendment 2,                                                               
which he  viewed as clarifying  language. However, he  was unsure                                                               
about the  second part of  Amendment 2 related to  the affirmance                                                               
rate.  He   pointed  out  that  AJC   currently  provides  survey                                                               
information  on  judges  in  the  voter  pamphlet.  The  language                                                               
explaining  the  affirmance  rate  provides   the  same  3  to  5                                                               
sentences  for  each judicial  candidate.  Since  space for  each                                                               
judicial  candidate   is  currently  limited  to   one  page,  he                                                               
expressed concern  that the remaining  space would not  allow for                                                               
other pertinent information about judicial candidates.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:53 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY  MEADE,  General  Counsel, Administrative  Offices,  Alaska                                                               
Court System,  Anchorage, Alaska, related her  understanding that                                                               
the committee  had questions  on the data  that the  court system                                                               
retains. She  said the court  system could provide the  data that                                                               
AJC needs  for the first portion  of Amendment 2 through  line 6.                                                               
Regarding the affirmance rate, which  is causing some concern for                                                               
the  sponsor, she  suggested it  might be  possible to  find some                                                               
middle ground.  She suggested that  the language might  be worded                                                               
"with appropriate context  to make this meaningful  to voters" or                                                               
some other  phrase to ensure  the information the  sponsor wanted                                                               
is  provided   yet  allows  some   leeway  for  AJC   to  publish                                                               
information to inform voters but not overwhelm them.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked whether the  court system could develop some                                                               
suggested language  for the committee's review.  She acknowledged                                                               
that space in  the voter pamphlet was limited. She  was unsure of                                                               
the length of  the affirmance rate language, whether  it would be                                                               
one sentence, the same language for  each judge, or vary based on                                                               
the  affirmance  rate.  For  example, she  said  if  the  judge's                                                               
affirmance rate was 20 percent,  it might say something different                                                               
than if it was 80 percent.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:53:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. DIPIETRO indicated AJC's goal  was to provide the information                                                               
in the  most meaningful  way for voters,  which she  believed was                                                               
also  the sponsor's  goal. She  referred  to the  second part  of                                                               
Amendment 2,  beginning on  line 6, and  indicated that  the goal                                                               
was to  provide context  on the affirmance  rate. For  example, a                                                               
judge  may have  an affirmance  rate of  77 percent,  but without                                                               
context it might  be difficult for voters to  assess whether that                                                               
was a  good or  bad rate, so  AJC would want  to explain  that 77                                                               
percent meets performance  standards or is well  within the range                                                               
of the  affirmance rates of  other similarly situated  judges and                                                               
historical  records.  She  stated   she  intended  to  craft  the                                                               
contextual  language differently  for each  situation to  be most                                                               
meaningful for voters.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND reconvened the meeting                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:55:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  responded  that  he  hoped  voters  would  obtain                                                               
context  from comparing  the  information on  the  judges up  for                                                               
retention. He  noted that typically more  than 1 to 2  judges are                                                               
up for retention  for each election. He recalled  that 6-8 judges                                                               
were  up  for  retention  in  the  Fairbanks  area  at  the  last                                                               
election.  He  surmised  voters could  review  the  pamphlet  and                                                               
compare  the judges'  affirmance rate.  If  most were  in the  75                                                               
percent range,  but one judge  had a 53 percent  affirmance, that                                                               
judge would be the apparent outlier.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:56:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND withdrew Amendment 2.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:57:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  moved  to  adopt  Amendment  3,  work  order  32-                                                               
LS0751\O.7.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                   32-LS0751\O.7                                                                
                                                        Radford                                                                 
                                                         2/8/22                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 3                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                   BY SENATOR HOLLAND                                                                 
     TO:  CSSB 129(JUD), Draft Version "O"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 19, following "(E)":                                                                                      
          Insert "if applicable,"                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  DIPIETRO  explained  that   Amendment  3  would  insert  "if                                                               
applicable"  in subparagraph  (E).  She explained  that the  bill                                                               
would require  the judge's ratings  by law  enforcement officers,                                                               
attorneys, court system employees,  and jurors. Amendment 3 would                                                               
solve  a  specific  problem  since  jurors  and  law  enforcement                                                               
officers do not  rate appellate judges. She  reported that jurors                                                               
do  not  appear  in  an  appellate  court,  and  law  enforcement                                                               
officers do  not appear  as witnesses  in appellate  courts since                                                               
appellate courts  do not have  witnesses. In essence,  this would                                                               
allow AJC  to provide  all the  survey information  applicable to                                                               
each type of judge.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES removed her objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  heard no  further objection,  and Amendment  3 was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND held SB 129 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 155 SJUD Amendment B.1.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 155
HB 155 SJUD Amendment B.2.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 155
SB 129 SJUD Amendment O.2.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 129
SB 129 SJUD Amendment O.6.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 129
SB 129 SJUD Amendment O.7.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 129
SB 23 Sponsor Statement.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
SSTA 3/9/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 23
SB 23 Research - NCSL States that Allow Severability Clauses in Ballot Initiatives.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
SSTA 3/9/2021 3:30:00 PM
SB 23
SB 23 Legal Memo.pdf SJUD 2/9/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 23